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sagansense:

I appreciate the sentiment but I never said anything about religion as a whole. I referred specifically to Christianity in that post.

And no. We live in a world with facts and fiction. Lies and truth. Deliver lies, the outcome is ignorance. Deliver truth, you are that much closer to understanding reality. Like I said, it’s child abuse. Period.

I respect other religions, of course. There are some beautiful religions out there that aren’t hurting anyone and I respectfully admire their teachings and principles. But not at the expense of oppressing the truth.

We are humans that have evolved the ability to rationalize our own deception. When religion becomes this sort of, ho-hum, let them go, at least they’re happy, sort of negligence, that’s when well…you end up with a society like ours. Where people can get away with it by plastering it on billboards, making people swear by it, or pledge allegiance to it, or kill for it, or die for it or maliciously torture and abuse others verbally, mentally, physically, emotionally, neuro/psychologically because of it. An educated, intelligent, scientifically literate population would not passively steer around that kind of ignorance and obvious destructive behavior.

Do you know what questions I’m first asked…what anyone is asked when they are pre-screened for a therapist or psychiatrist?

Do you hear voices? Do you see visions or talk to people who aren’t there? My friend, do you realize how absolutely batshit crazy that sounds? And that makes up a large majority of people in this country, let alone the world, who still talk to & communicate with an unseen deity. And these people aren’t all in therapy or being psychologically or neurologically examined. They’re voters. They’re parents. They’re teachers. Coaches. Doctors. Lawyers. They’re most of the people “in charge” governing how you live and what “freedoms” you have.

So no. I don’t carry much empathy for those who try to govern the truth with ancient wisdom while the ambitious amongst us wish to take to the skies and the stars.

No matter how it makes someone “feel”…

“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”
― Daniel Patrick Moynihan

sagansense:

I agree that it has more of a religious tone in terms of believing without understanding, but astrology has a very rich history. It’s basically the primitive version of astronomy, so it’s just a matter of correcting ones course to interpret the universe correctly.

People who are hard core believers of such pseudoscience are not corrupting the world, they’re simply choosing not to reach beyond their own understanding because of the way it already makes them feel. It’s a gap of ignorance they have yet to cross. That’s a very similar parallel to the way religions persuade others’ minds to operate as well, but astrologists are not banning together against climate change, women’s reproductive “rights” or gay marriage.

However, astrology will eventually fade out, as will other religions in terms of superimposing these “truths” or this pseudo “knowledge” onto others as well as applying it across the board, globally overgeneralizing and completely tuning out the societal factors at hand along with the persistent, applicable and rapidly-advancing understanding of how our brains/minds function.

The way I look at astrology is this….I’m just glad you’re looking up and paying attention to the stars. If you don’t have anyone around you providing you with any more information on the stars and planets you so dearly attribute to the way you are and the interpret our existence, then you’re limiting yourself to truly understanding the natural world for what it really is.

Understanding the way the planets and the stars operate manifests true awe and slowly displaces your feeling of connectivity once sought through pseudo-practices like astrology. You want to know, or you don’t. If you don’t, you’re not doing anyone any favors by putting others onto it or again, superimposing your own insecurities and willful ignorance onto another person’s life. There’s no excuse for ignorance anymore. Our technological advances as a civilization have brought forth abundant knowledge and global access. To waiver that “right” as a human being - knowledge, curiosity, understanding, intelligence - is to deny life itself.

Because once you go down that road and you take the little that you know, applying this naïvety to your peers, loved ones, etc. - whom are all faced with diverse struggles for a multitude of reasons brought forth by this society and the reality we live in, dealing with them through their own understanding of life - you are automatically assuming what you’re “preaching” or passing on, is correct.

I would much rather be sharing the correct information based upon my understanding of the world as it actually is, which exhibits true recognition and respect regarding what that person is going through so that I can effectively assess the situation coherently and confidently, to comfort and strengthen someone emotionally and intellectually as well, so they are able to move forward with new knowledge.

Astrology, much like religion, is like staring into a fire and admiring its physical and aesthetic beauty, but never getting too close to the fire. A comfortable relationship based upon something perceived as too complex, too mysterious to grasp, yet using that a tool for how you navigate through and assess life. And to make matters worse, it’s a dangerous social tool passed onto others, dispersed as some kind of independent spiritual truth.

But without ever experiencing what it’s like to get burned and the natural laws coupled with the biological/neurological understanding of the way fire truly “works”, you’re “truth” - whether it be pseudoscience/religion - complicates the lives of others when passed off or shared as this beneficial understanding and connection with reality, which is based on false pretenses, primitive understanding or “ancient wisdom, some of these are called”. I don’t need to go forth with breaking down how harmful this is to a person, let alone a society, let alone a global population, let alone a species - the only species, mind you - with the ability to rationalize themselves out of the truth, making them a danger to themselves, others and the environment they coexist amongst.

So there. If anyone wants to know why I have any type of anti-religious bias, here it is. Not all religions and spiritual practices are harmful in this way, but the ones that are harmful and manipulative are the ones indoctrinating the minds of the youth in the present day.

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